More about sex
"How do you feel about having your V-Card when most of your students have lost theirs?"
--Actually, it makes me sad.
Welcome to the conversation held today in one of my classes.
Add this to general lack of clothing worn by high school and junior high (!!!) student groups recently, and it's just reminded me once again how warped societies views on sex are. It's not something that's taboo, or even rare, but it's commonplace and doesn't seem to be something that special, just something that's kind of fun.
Sex is such an important part of how God views marriage. It's a wonderful gift that I look forward to exploring with my (hypothetical) wife, and an amazing gift that I get to give her. I find it very sad that so few people these days are able to live that, or even to claim that as a belief.
Ok, end of rant.
--Actually, it makes me sad.
Welcome to the conversation held today in one of my classes.
Add this to general lack of clothing worn by high school and junior high (!!!) student groups recently, and it's just reminded me once again how warped societies views on sex are. It's not something that's taboo, or even rare, but it's commonplace and doesn't seem to be something that special, just something that's kind of fun.
Sex is such an important part of how God views marriage. It's a wonderful gift that I look forward to exploring with my (hypothetical) wife, and an amazing gift that I get to give her. I find it very sad that so few people these days are able to live that, or even to claim that as a belief.
Ok, end of rant.
posted by spocktongue at 10:00 PM
19 Comments:
What class was that? I think part of the problem is that parents do not either enforce or clearly state their values on the topic, so teens are easily influenced by societal images and ideals.
I'd agree, anonymous.
Personal testimony: it works, bum. All the things you say and believe about sex within marriage... it's the real thing. And somehow it even goes beyond (y)our expectations...
Amen, Bum. It's priceless and beautiful beyond description. And it's so sad that it's no longer seen as something special.
I could say more, but then it wouldn't be a comment, but more like "rant: girl style". So I won't.
But I have to ask: was this conversation due to a lack of well-made lesson plans, or was it just one of those random end-of-term kids-off-task kinda things? ;)
Hey, who said you get to call Dave "bum"?!? I'm not even sure Mrs. Bum gets to do that... :)
As for lack of lesson plans, it was really more of said student not wanting to do that board work I was making her do, and I think stemmed off of a conversation she was having with a friend.
What was your class' opinion on the subject?
It wasn't really a class-wide discussion, more local in nature, while the class was doing boardwork (I think).
And, when I responded with the "sad" part, I don't think the person knew how to respond to that. I don't know what answer they were looking for or expecting, but it definitely wasn't the answer I gave. Again, it's almost like some of my students feel embarassed for me or something, and again, it's something I consider to my credit.
Stand up for yourself! Not that you aren't, but you know what I mean. I disagree, however, with the sadness... I don't think you have anything to be sad about! I think you have an amazing thing to be PROUD of!!! I couldn't do it! Amen to you that you can. It WILL be worth it!!!
one more thing: anonymous (first on page)... I only agree to a point... when are we as a society going to take responsibility for our own actions instead of blaming the influences around us for the things we do?
azure_erin, teenagers or kids don't know who to follow or what is right and wrong at times. If parents aren't there to help, which in many cases, they aren't, then kids tend to follow what they see around them.
It would be awesome if society took responsibility for actions, but it is human nature to try to fit in, whatever way that may be. If celebrities are doing it, and friends are doing it, why should I be any different? (It in that sense does not necesarily mean sex)
Erin, sorry for the confusion. I'm not saying I'm sad for *me* still being a virgin, rather I'm sad for many/most of my students *not* being virgins.
I guess I feel somewhat in between the views of anonymous and Erin as well. Yes, parents have a *huge* influence on their kids and their values, and this is the worst parenting generation the world has ever seen, I think. But, ultimately, a person's actions are their own. Teenagers nowadays may have a mountain to climb if they want to live counter-culturally, but they can still choose to climb it. Whether or not it's human nature to fit in, it's still a choice you are making.
I think one of the biggest problems is there aren't enough/any people standing on top of that mountain showing those below them that you can, in fact, climb it.
Isn't it interesting how whenever I talk about sex, I always get a ton of comments and dialogue? :)
It's a hot button topic
Well said, bum. Here's to Strength and Wisdom as you continue your climb...
And ms. petite, I'm not sure if we're on the "bum" level. As the other bum so eloquently stated, even Mrs. Bum doesn't use the term that much. (but, to be honest, you did make me smile!)
anonymous: I still think that I lean more to the side of Spocktongue. I have a nine year old daughter that I wouldn't have if I had taken the high road and not given in to peer pressure. Now, I am NOT saying that I would change having this wonderful child in my life. She has changed me in the most positive ways imaginable. But, I am saying that it was hard to raise her, it was hard to grow up so fast, I made a culturally acceptable choice instead of a wise one and I HAD parents that were some of the best influences a kid can have.
Ultimately, I am the ONLY one (along with my ex boyfriend, who made more bad choices later) who can take responsibility for what I did and what I do now. Don't play the "blame game"... to blame the socital influences around you, whether the issue be sex, or violence, or drugs, etc., is to be no better than those willing to put the influences in front of innocents in the first place. To quote Spocktongue: "Teenagers nowadays may have a mountain to climb if they want to live counter-culturally, but they can still choose to climb it. Whether or not it's human nature to fit in, it's still a choice you are making."
You (and every one else on the planet) are in charge of the choices you make... seek out people, even if they aren't parents, who want to help you climb that mountain... I assure you they are out there.
If you worryed about your schools lasck of Clothes why not say somthing REALYY!!! Something needs to be done about it. They lack of clothes makers our school look like a bunch of whores!! Our teachers don't say anything, they just make us put on an office shirt that is long. Then we find a way to make that look bad to. you need to speak up!! thats alsos kinda depressing most of your students have lost there V_CARD and you havent
Okay, the other Anonymous, I agree with Azure to a point. An individual has control over every part of their lives including those whom contain an impact on their life. If you are always blaming society, or the kid next to you during class, what good is that to you? You arent learning anything let alone growing as a person. It is like a murderer saying the Devil made me do it. Pathetic. You are in charge of YOUR actions and YOUR actions only. If you're role model doesnt do that, then I suggest you find a new one.
And Mr. Alspaugh, I congradulate (or how ever you spell it). There you are twenty-six and still a virgin where as most of your students are still fifteen to seventeen and are not. Kudos to you.
- Anonymous That's Not That Anonymous -
First: Whoo-hoo Shawn & Erin!! :D (oh, and another "Amen!!!", if you don't mind.) I whole-heartedly agree. You have a choice and an opinion - use it! You say you want to be different - do so! Be an individual, and NOT a statistic!
Second: All you anonymous peeps need nicknames or something, 'cause I don't know how many of you there are! (Thanks "anonymous-who-isn't-so-anonymous" ^.^)
Third: That was the whole point, Dave! I really couldn't resist... ;P It was there, I took it!
By the same token, I could fuss at you for calling me "Ms"...oh, how I hate that! >:( I am married, but even when I wasn't "miss" is still showing respect.
But maybe we could work out a deal...? lol
thanks petite... I was worried I came on too strong!!! I am just sooo passionate about this! Kids need to realize that they are in charge of themselves and that there are people out there that are challenging them to be different and are willing to be the ones to help them do so! Yay for going against the flow of the crowd to be different!!!
mrs. petite,
my most sincere apologies. I guess now we're even! :)
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